are these free loaders? is it the iraq war veteran that goes to the v.a.? a student getting a loan to go to colleges, the retiree on social security or medicare? here's mark mckinnon, it reveals a deeply cynical man who sees the country as completely divided, two completely different sets of people who would likely govern in a way that would only further divide us. these are republican voices. >> well, i don't know, david brooks is a columnist, i don't know if he would call himself a republican or not. but, matt, if you look at the full tape, the governor was asked about winning the election. and he said an election, the president starts with 47%, i start with 47%. i think most political analysts would agree that's pretty much the bottom line for most -- both parties' nominees. and you've got to fight for the 6% of undecided voters. that's political analysis. >> you're talking about numbers there and the comments were more disparaging -- it wasn't just being a numbers game. he made disparaging comments about their lack of responsibility. >> what he said was that -- he was talking about t